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For those students who are pregnant, taking abortion becomes a serious problem, especially they have not expected the coming of this child. Some people are against taking abortion because they think it is immoral to take away a life. Obviously, they stand on the side of the baby; however, I think people should not neglect that what will have an impact on the mother. This article in E-Soc Journal has mentioned many aspects of the impact when young students get pregnant and if they give birth. Below are my summary and analysis about the impact in the article.

At first, those pregnant students have to face the overwhelming pressure from their family and during giving birth. In traditional Chinese family, it is unacceptable for girls to get pregnant when they are not married. Girl’s pregnancy probably could make the family does not know how to do, and that they may be hostile to the incident. Besides, the author said an important point: “Even if giving the birth, the young girls usually do not know how to do when they face changing their role and the duty of supporting a baby.” The young mothers probably do not know what their kid needs, and they lack the experience and patience. Some of them cannot bear the stress then turn to ignore their child or even become violent toward to children.

Second, whether the environment is suitable for the mother and baby is also a problem. “When the young girl decide to give birth, she may endure the pain from the bad living environment, malnutrition, unemployed, not enough work or suspension, and not enough train of career or dependency on finance. The possibility her life falls into poor is higher than those 20s married mothers.” I think it is not easy for a young girl to take care of herself and the kid, not to mention under the unprepared and immature environment. The situation may have influence in both of mother’s and baby’s future.

I think the reason why students’ pregnancy could bring many aspect of impact is that most of students do not expect they will get pregnant. They have not prepared to be parents, and they have to receive many mental stress. They are students and parents in the meantime, if they go to work, then they will have less time with their kids, and that could result kid’s educational problem. What’s more, the unfriendly stereotype with students’ unmarried pregnancy still exists in the society. So if they cannot overcome these difficulties, I do not think giving a birth is better way.

Keyword:

Malnutrition: healthy problem, someone does not get enough nutrition.

Source: 王淑卿 (2004). 青少女未婚懷孕相關因素及其預防輔導策略. 網路社會學通訊期刊,36, Retrieved from: http://mail.nhu.edu.tw/~society/e-j/36/36-43.htm

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即使在寶寶生下來之後，年輕女孩在面臨角色的突然改變及育嬰責任，常常也顯得不知所措（楊佳芳、李孟智，1996）。加上懷孕的任務，有太多的心理任務要完成，其成功與否都將深深影響自己和寶寶的未來。

                當年輕女孩決定生下小孩之後，她就可能承受居住環境不佳、營養健康不良、失業或未充分就業、輟學、職業訓練不足或經濟依賴等痛苦。她的生活陷入窮困的機率比二十幾歲已婚母親高

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1.蘇俞臻:
I think it's a little strange for you to mention that if students can't shoulder the burden and conquer the stress, it will "add problem in the society(last line of the article)." Because the whole paper mostly focuses on the exteral and internal factors of taking abortion, such as the financial problem and parents' mental health. You don't talk about any social problems in the previous paragraphs, so I need to think what problems will be added in the society by myself. I'm sure that it does cause problems, but it's better to point out what exactly they are.

ME: thank you. I will think about this fault.

2.蔣雅如:
In paragraph 2 last sentence, you mentioned that many restrooms are not equipped with nursery rooms. I know probably you want to say that situation in college but you did not mention the location and it confused me at first sight.

ME: what do you mean the "location" ?

3阮郁奇:

I think the issue you have mentioned is based on two students in a relationship. What about a student girl having a baby with an elder man who is capable of supporting a family? 

And I also think the nursery room problem doesn't only happen to pregnant college students. Many pregnant women would have this situation because in Taiwan nursery rooms are not very common in workplace. So I think this is not a good reason to support your idea.

ME :thank you for your response,

But we want to focus on "students get pregnant", because college students is a special group while facing the problem. We think that it is interesting to discuss if students get pregnant then what will they do.

Nursery room is just one of points about the unfriendly environment in schools. I know no nursery room will not be the reason for students taking abortion. I will think about it.

4. Chen Joselin:

I'm agree with your point. Although I think it is cruel to take abortion, it is much more merciless that children can't grow up in a good environment. If the couple have baby accidentally and they get married just because the baby, it is likely to lead to a marriage breakdown.

ME: thank you. And your response is what I want to emphasize, the couple does not prepare for the baby coming. I don't think it is good environment for baby growing up.

5. 陳奕臻:

I think your article is convincing because I was on the side that student should still give birth. Although I was on the other side on this issue, your article made me not quite sure if my idea doesn't complete enough. However, I thought that the ending of this article is not strong or impressed enough. In addition, your article doesn't have any example from news, magazine or other things. If you can give more examples, your article will be more complete.

ME: thank you. yes, the last paragraph is a fault is this essay, because there is no enough evidence to support my point of view. I will think about it.

6. Claire Ke:

I support your idea that college students not to give birth. Who knows what will happen in the future? There must be problems if someone really gives birth to a baby. As time flies, people must change. A marriage composed by young people is more fragile than one composed by two mature people. If this marriage fails, children will be hurt and other problems also come. 

So my suggestion is you can find some real cases as examples that students who give birth to children have terrible futures, to strengthen your point.

ME: thank you. You point out what I lost in the paper. I will try to find out the example.

7. Lisa Yu:

I have some suggestions about the words. In the second paragraph, make up in "make up a family"can be changed to build up because "make up" is not proper in this sentence. And in the third paragraph, take care of in" does not take care of her body " can be changed to cherish.

ME: I didn't think up "build up" at that time,lol. thank you for giving good words.

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In this video, there are two sides discussing whether students in university should take abortion or give birth when they are pregnant.

Below are the two main points that why some people do not want to give birth.

1. Rather take abortion cruelly, than consider it reluctantly.

2. How can children support children? A mistake will be a permanent regret

Summary and analysis:

In this video we can notice that for most of students, the reason why they rather take abortion than give birth is money the most. “College students do not really have enough financial capacity. Some of them probably still have to ask money from family. If give a birth, then will you use the money that parents give to support your child or just ask family to take care of it?” said a male student. They think in finance, some of students still have to depend on family, how could they have enough money to support a child? Most of students have no stable job, and do not have time to earn much money. They think it is even hard to support themselves.

Then the second part is marriage. They think it is necessary that the child needs parents, and it means they have to get married. However, the baby is unexpected, they haven’t consider whether the lover is their spouse. They are afraid of regretting to get married.

I think those who rather take abortion is not mature. They think how children can support children, but this thought also reveals that they think they are still childish. For them, they are afraid of taking the responsibility, they even cannot take care of themselves, so that they do not want to have more troubles. Furthermore, they do not really think it is a baby, most of them treat it as a trouble. Because being pregnant is unexpected, especially under no marriage, they think it is fault. In the video, the host asks a question: “Who will you tell you are pregnant first?,” and no one wants to tell their parents first, because they do not want to disturb parents. Although they think they are able to deal with the situation, they are subconscious to treat it as a mistake.

    And marriage problem also brings some thoughts. They do not want the child becomes the reason for them to get married or the trouble when they decide to get divorced. This is also caused by immature. “The most important is, I think the relationship between students is still not that mature, you have to consider whether the person is the one you will live with forever, so will you marry him/ her?” said a male student. They are mature in physical, so they have sex, but the truth is that in both of mental and their relationship, they cannot be responsible to the possible result that having sex would bring.

    To sum up, the side that supports taking abortion tends to consider real life problems and about their future. They all admit that they don’t have enough money and are not mature to have a baby, so taking abortion becomes a way for them to escape these troublesome problems. 

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Reluctantly: They know how hard to support a child, especially the child is unexpected, they have difficulty to take care of child. If one of them does not want the child, or they don’t have same conclusion, then there will be a person is reluctant.

Regret: They worried that the child cannot grow up happily and that how to face making up a family. They think just because of the child then get married, they probably will regret.

Financial capacity: For most of college students, they even need money from family, how to earn much money to support a child? And they still have to go to school, that means they do not have much time to work.

Mature: Some students do not have the responsibility to face pregnancy. Some of them probably want to have fun with friends and go to night clubs, they do not take child seriously, while the others think it is girl that gets pregnant, they do not have to face it anyway. Some students think their relationship is still not mature enough, it will be a problem if they decide to make up a family.

Original  content:

1.      與其勉為其難 到不如快刀斬藕絲

2.      小孩怎能養小孩 一失足成千古恨

Rather take abortion cruelly, than consider it reluctantly

How can children support children? A mistake will be a permanent regret

告訴男朋友是一件很困難的事，第二個是還要聽他的反應，如果他今天跟我說你不要生下來，你就會想說他一定是不會愛我，如果它叫我生下來，你又會開始想說那有經濟能力嗎？如果生下來會娶我嗎？如果要思考這麼多很難過，那就直接拿掉就好。我覺得大學生真的沒有能力，小孩生出來會很可憐 也會麻煩到父母，因為你絕對沒有辦法自己照顧他。

At first, it is difficult to tell boyfriend that I am pregnant. Second is to listen to his recreation. If today he says not to give a birth, you will think he doesn’t love certainly. If he asks me to give a birth, you will starts to think do we have the financial capacity? Will he marry me after I give a birth? If I have to consider many aspects in despair, I think it will be better to take abortion straightly.

I think college students really have no capacity, the child will be poor, and you have to ask parents for help, because you can’t take care of child by yourself.

大學生的經濟能力實在是沒那麼強，有些人可能一個月還是跟家裡拿錢，生下來後，是要拿家裡的人給你的錢去養他？還是就要丟給家裡養？就變一個大問題，而且生下來你沒辦法給他一個完好的生活，連奶粉錢可能都是問題的時候，生下來要幹嘛？重點我覺得大學生彼此之間的感情都還不是那麼成熟，可能這個人是不是你一輩子要走下去的人，你這時候要不要跟它結婚？

College students do not really have enough financial capacity. Some of them probably still have to ask money from family. If give a birth, then will you use the money that parents give to support your child or just ask family to take care of it? It is big problem, and you cannot give child a good life, even milk powder becomes a problem, why give a birth? The most important is, I think the relationship between students is still not that mature, you have to consider whether the person is the one you will live with forever, so will you marry him/ her?

Resource from:< "5/3大學生了沒 如果懷孕 下" "ctitv" "2011-5-03"  "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cn5nhnBMFg" >

Should university students take abortion?

       Nowadays, with the concept of having sex getting opened in Taiwan, pregnancy becomes a serious issue among teenagers and students. Because the pregnancy of teenagers is involved in many legal problems, we focus on pregnant students in university, who are adults according to the laws. My side is against students giving birth. Below are my reasons to support my opinion. At first, most of students have no capacity for supporting themselves, not to mention to their children. Even their parents could give financial help, their quality of material life will be effected still. They probably have to reduce buying their clothes or anything expensive and to sacrifice their time with friends in order to give baby better life.
       Second, though they are regarded as adults, it does not mean all of them are mature, especially in mental. Having a child needs the strong responsibility of parents, and it is not a short-time job. Furthermore, if the two students decide to make up a family, then it is not only a problem with children, but it also includes their marriage. If they get married just for their child, when they regret, it still becomes a problem. Third, the environment or the society is still not friendly to those mother-students. Before the law which forbids students studying in the university more than four years was modified, most of students have to choose suspension or abortion. Although this law had been modified, now those who have to take care of their children can apply for more time to stay in university, most of schools do not have enough measures to deal with the demand of mother-students. For example, many restrooms are not equipped with nursery rooms. 
       Besides these problems, mother-students may have to endure that people will treat them with unusual eyes or thoughts. People may think this girl probably has complex relationship or does not take care of her body so that she gets pregnant. Have a child and being pregnant are not bad things, but the stereotype in the society still exists. Some of students think baby has its own right to come to the world, we should not take abortion. But I think this decision is very serious and that it effects three groups- girl’s family, boy’s family and the two students with their baby. Baby is a life indeed, but we still have to consider whether it can grow up happily and parents’ mental health. Many students think they can understand the responsibility to their child and decide to make up a family by impulse, but that could lead to more problems. If students cannot shoulder the burden and conquer the stress, rather the baby goes and parents endure physical and mental pain, than no one is happy in the family or add problem in the society.
source:
http://health.chinatimes.com/contents.aspx?cid=4,31&id=2649
http://jou.pccu.edu.tw/weekly/opinion/1038/04.htm
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/rosejerry/1053773

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cn5nhnBMFg